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The Better Learning Podcast is about improving education at all levels - Schools (public, charter, private, independent), Higher Education, & Corporate/Adult Learning. The major theme is to break down the silos and learn from others doing innovative things in education. We highlight innovative programs & initiatives, lessons learned, improvements to educational space, and real-world tactics while getting a deeper understanding of the people behind the innovation. Our guests include Heads of Schools, Superintendents, Principals, Entrepreneurs, Non-profit leaders and other innovators. Kevin Stoller, CEO of Kay-Twelve.com & author of Creating Better Learning Environments, is the host.

Jul 22, 2026

This episode comes from the A4LE Northeast Regional Conference in Rochester, New York, hosted by Jessica Westerduin. Guests discuss indicators of a successful school building, what it would mean to walk into their designs 20 years from now, the value of stakeholder collaboration, the role of flexible furniture and adaptability, and the challenges school leaders face guiding their communities through transitions and long-term visioning.

 

Our special guests, in order of appearance:

Lemuer Perez M.A. ED.:

University Academy Charter High School

Educational Consultant

https://www.linkedin.com/in/lemuer-perez-m-a-ed-752854145/

Matthew Gallerani, AIA:

GWWO Architects

Architect

https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-gallerani-aia-1ba88431/

Julie Spence, AIA, ALEP:

Lavallee Brensinger Architects

Educational Planner

https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-spence-aia-alep-a706588/

Elizabeth Geldres AIA, PMP, LEED AP, NOMA:

Stantec

Architect, Senior Project Manager, and K-12 Studio Leader

https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-geldres/

Jeremy Dwyer, AIA:

CannonDesign

Vice President

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremy-dwyer-aia-8ab0948/

Emily Czarnecki:

JCJ Architecture

Design Principal

https://www.linkedin.com/in/emily-czarnecki-a9863212/

Jennifer Grafton, AIA, ALEP & Melissa Martin:

SCHRADERGROUP (Jennifer) & New Holland Elementary School (Melissa)

PA PK-12 Market Segment Leader (Jennifer) & Principal (Melissa)

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifergrafton/

 

Episode 343 of the Better Learning Podcast

For more information on our partners:

Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/

Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/

Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/

EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/

Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/


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