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The Better Learning Podcast is about improving education at all levels - Schools (public, charter, private, independent), Higher Education, & Corporate/Adult Learning. The major theme is to break down the silos and learn from others doing innovative things in education. We highlight innovative programs & initiatives, lessons learned, improvements to educational space, and real-world tactics while getting a deeper understanding of the people behind the innovation. Our guests include Heads of Schools, Superintendents, Principals, Entrepreneurs, Non-profit leaders and other innovators. Kevin Stoller, CEO of Kay-Twelve.com & author of Creating Better Learning Environments, is the host.

Jul 22, 2026

In this episode, host Katie Jubenville brings listeners conversations from the A4LE Georgia Chapter Conference on Jekyll Island. Guests explore what "Radically Student Centered™" design truly means, the everyday details students notice that adults overlook, partnerships between design firms and educators, and creative problem-solving during construction — plus some fun local picks for how they'd spend a day on Jekyll Island.

Our guests, in order of appearnace:

Namrata Dani, AIA:

Corgan

Architect

https://www.linkedin.com/in/namratadani/

Jill Hackett:

Turner & Townsend Heery

Director

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillwofford/

Jesse Frasier:

Turner & Townsend Heery

Vice President

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessefrasier/

Carissa Shrock Oyedele, AIA, NCIDQ, LEED AP BDC:

Corgan

Associate Principal, Senior Project Manager & Architect

https://www.linkedin.com/in/carissa-shrock-oyedele-aia-ncidq-leed-ap-bdc-566a3685/

Heli Shah:

CDH Partners, Inc.

Project Director

https://www.linkedin.com/in/helishah/

Jamie B. Case:

CDH Partners, Inc.

Principal (Jamie) & Project Director (Heli)

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-b-case-5a640012/

Dawn Hill:

Elbert County School District

Special Education Administrative Assistant

 

Episode 344 of the Better Learning Podcast

For more information on our partners:

Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/

Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/

Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/

EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/

Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/


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