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The Better Learning Podcast is about improving education at all levels - Schools (public, charter, private, independent), Higher Education, & Corporate/Adult Learning. The major theme is to break down the silos and learn from others doing innovative things in education. We highlight innovative programs & initiatives, lessons learned, improvements to educational space, and real-world tactics while getting a deeper understanding of the people behind the innovation. Our guests include Heads of Schools, Superintendents, Principals, Entrepreneurs, Non-profit leaders and other innovators. Kevin Stoller, CEO of & author of Creating Better Learning Environments, is the host.

May 3, 2023

The world of education is constantly changing and it is hard for teachers and administrators to keep up. Futurist and author Pascal Finette shares his insights on the impact of these changes on the classroom. Topics include ChatGPT, AI, the pandemic, human reaction to disruption, TikTok as a learning platform, and how to look for early glimpses of what the future may hold. 

Pascal Finette is the co-founder of be radical, EY’s wavespace Advisory Board Chair, and Jury Chair for Science and Innovation Management at Falling Walls Foundation. Previously he held leadership positions at, Mozilla, and eBay, built technology startups, and launched a Venture Capital firm. He is the posse leader at, and the cofounder of the Women’s Impact Alliance.

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Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at

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